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		<title>By: JL</title>
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		<dc:creator>JL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 19:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your comment so much.

JL Smith
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 07:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HSUS is definitely not a group against the ownership of pets.  This is just a controversy created by the industries that feel threatened by the HSUS&#039; influence on a national level to advocate for animals.  

That being said, HSUS provides many invaluable resources to shelters.  This is coming from an individual who has worked in shelters for over a decade and who continues to work with many different shelters in many different ways (and on a more professional level now).  Historically, they were developed as a way to lessen the burden on local shelters by working to enact legislation on a national level.  See how HSUS helps shelters:

http://www.humanesociety.org/animal_community/resources/facts/HSUS_local_shelters.html

It&#039;s laughable to think that just because HSUS has the term &quot;humane society&quot; in it, that is it is obligated to give its funds to all local shelters.  It&#039;s like blaming the ASPCA for not giving to every &quot;SPCA&quot; in the country.  But you don&#039;t see the same claims coming out for them.  

More info to dispute the claims put out by Humane Watch and the Center for Consumer Freedom:

http://humanewatch.info/blog/2010/08/06/overcompensating/

http://humanewatch.info/blog/shelter-contribs-2009/

Link about Richard Berman (the man behind CCF and Humane Watch):
http://www.bermanexposed.org/

Hopefully this helps with those who are just confused about all the dialogue being exchanged.  I may not convince any of the anti-HSUS people out there, but I just wanted to put the information I know out there for consideration.  I appreciate this blog&#039;s effort to encourage good conversation between those on both sides of the issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HSUS is definitely not a group against the ownership of pets.  This is just a controversy created by the industries that feel threatened by the HSUS&#8217; influence on a national level to advocate for animals.  </p>
<p>That being said, HSUS provides many invaluable resources to shelters.  This is coming from an individual who has worked in shelters for over a decade and who continues to work with many different shelters in many different ways (and on a more professional level now).  Historically, they were developed as a way to lessen the burden on local shelters by working to enact legislation on a national level.  See how HSUS helps shelters:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.humanesociety.org/animal_community/resources/facts/HSUS_local_shelters.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.humanesociety.org/animal_community/resources/facts/HSUS_local_shelters.html</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s laughable to think that just because HSUS has the term &#8220;humane society&#8221; in it, that is it is obligated to give its funds to all local shelters.  It&#8217;s like blaming the ASPCA for not giving to every &#8220;SPCA&#8221; in the country.  But you don&#8217;t see the same claims coming out for them.  </p>
<p>More info to dispute the claims put out by Humane Watch and the Center for Consumer Freedom:</p>
<p><a href="http://humanewatch.info/blog/2010/08/06/overcompensating/" rel="nofollow">http://humanewatch.info/blog/2010/08/06/overcompensating/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://humanewatch.info/blog/shelter-contribs-2009/" rel="nofollow">http://humanewatch.info/blog/shelter-contribs-2009/</a></p>
<p>Link about Richard Berman (the man behind CCF and Humane Watch):<br />
<a href="http://www.bermanexposed.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bermanexposed.org/</a></p>
<p>Hopefully this helps with those who are just confused about all the dialogue being exchanged.  I may not convince any of the anti-HSUS people out there, but I just wanted to put the information I know out there for consideration.  I appreciate this blog&#8217;s effort to encourage good conversation between those on both sides of the issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Fishstick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fishstick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 08:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that HSUS apologists never try to refute the arguments/facts of the CCF and instead attack the organization itself?

Is that hard to understand why companies who use animal products would be against an organization that wants domesticated animals extinct?  How does that make their arguments invalid?

As for the CCF being against MADD...you know who als doesn&#039;t like MADD?  THE FOUNDER HERSELF.  The organization became extremist and she left in 1985.  Funny how HSUS apologists never mention that.  I guess they also think its a good idea to make everyone pay to have a breathalyzer installed in their car.

And Michella, there is this amazing thing called Google.  Using it for like 15 minutes could confirm that the statements the poster said are true, unless you believe all news websites are lies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that HSUS apologists never try to refute the arguments/facts of the CCF and instead attack the organization itself?</p>
<p>Is that hard to understand why companies who use animal products would be against an organization that wants domesticated animals extinct?  How does that make their arguments invalid?</p>
<p>As for the CCF being against MADD&#8230;you know who als doesn&#8217;t like MADD?  THE FOUNDER HERSELF.  The organization became extremist and she left in 1985.  Funny how HSUS apologists never mention that.  I guess they also think its a good idea to make everyone pay to have a breathalyzer installed in their car.</p>
<p>And Michella, there is this amazing thing called Google.  Using it for like 15 minutes could confirm that the statements the poster said are true, unless you believe all news websites are lies.</p>
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		<title>By: Michella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 21:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its people like Nixe who come into these forums and spread the misinformation, the rumors, the alleged crimes. Its all bullshit really, Nixe do you have back up? I seriously doubt it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its people like Nixe who come into these forums and spread the misinformation, the rumors, the alleged crimes. Its all bullshit really, Nixe do you have back up? I seriously doubt it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nixe</title>
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		<dc:creator>nixe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 21:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why did Wayne Pacelle, the head of HSUS:   

 1. Participate in the slaughter of some 150 dogs, including puppies, in Wilkes County, NC?
   2. Lobby to stop No Kill legislation in King County, WA?
   3. Support breed discriminatory legislation in Indianapolis, IN that would have led to the round up and killing of Pit Bulls?
   4. Tell USA Today and Newsweek that killing in shelters is acceptable and that No Kill was warehousing?
   5. Mislead the public about an epidemic of dog bites to convey the view that trying to save Pit Bulls was irresponsible and put children at risk?
   6. Tell the court to kill Vick’s victims even as he was asking people to give HSUS money so he could “care” for them?
   7. Leave New Orleans with tens of millions given to HSUS for the victims of Hurricane Katrina even while those animals were still suffering?
   8. Legitimize the slaughter of virtually every animal at Tangipahoa Parish animal control?
   9. Tell people not to adopt animals during the holidays, effectively accepting the deaths of 1,000,000 animals as the alternative?
  10. Tell the Randolph, IA community that HSUS does not have a problem killing stray cats?
  11. Claim that rescued dogs in Missouri should face a “pretty certain death”?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why did Wayne Pacelle, the head of HSUS:   </p>
<p> 1. Participate in the slaughter of some 150 dogs, including puppies, in Wilkes County, NC?<br />
   2. Lobby to stop No Kill legislation in King County, WA?<br />
   3. Support breed discriminatory legislation in Indianapolis, IN that would have led to the round up and killing of Pit Bulls?<br />
   4. Tell USA Today and Newsweek that killing in shelters is acceptable and that No Kill was warehousing?<br />
   5. Mislead the public about an epidemic of dog bites to convey the view that trying to save Pit Bulls was irresponsible and put children at risk?<br />
   6. Tell the court to kill Vick’s victims even as he was asking people to give HSUS money so he could “care” for them?<br />
   7. Leave New Orleans with tens of millions given to HSUS for the victims of Hurricane Katrina even while those animals were still suffering?<br />
   8. Legitimize the slaughter of virtually every animal at Tangipahoa Parish animal control?<br />
   9. Tell people not to adopt animals during the holidays, effectively accepting the deaths of 1,000,000 animals as the alternative?<br />
  10. Tell the Randolph, IA community that HSUS does not have a problem killing stray cats?<br />
  11. Claim that rescued dogs in Missouri should face a “pretty certain death”?</p>
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		<title>By: Carson Thilges</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carson Thilges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2010 07:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am ensnared with the notion of the liberation treatment to cure MS. From what data I can gather about clinics that provide treatment, I can only find one vague collection duplicated on a dozen websites. Is there a better way to locate treatment, per say in North America. There are places that offer Liberation Treatment for the United States that no one knows about, such as Liberation Treatment Now</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am ensnared with the notion of the liberation treatment to cure MS. From what data I can gather about clinics that provide treatment, I can only find one vague collection duplicated on a dozen websites. Is there a better way to locate treatment, per say in North America. There are places that offer Liberation Treatment for the United States that no one knows about, such as Liberation Treatment Now</p>
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		<title>By: Daniele Softich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniele Softich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 21:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for writing about this. There&#039;s a bunch of great tech info on the internet. You&#039;ve got a lot of that info here on your site. I&#039;m impressed - I try to keep a couple blogs somewhat live, but it&#039;s a struggle sometimes. You&#039;ve done a big job with this one. How do you do it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for writing about this. There&#8217;s a bunch of great tech info on the internet. You&#8217;ve got a lot of that info here on your site. I&#8217;m impressed &#8211; I try to keep a couple blogs somewhat live, but it&#8217;s a struggle sometimes. You&#8217;ve done a big job with this one. How do you do it?</p>
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		<title>By: Sammi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sammi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 08:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheila, from personal knowledge, you and your friends were supporting Ed Faron friend DOG FIGHTERS who wanted the dogs so they could continue to use them for fighting and breeding. You were trying to get the dogs turned over to DOG FIGHTERS posing as rescue groups!

And you were letting DOG FIGHTERS know where the dogs were so they could steal them.

Don&#039;t blame HSUS here for the terrible things you people were trying to do to those pit bulls. You may have thought you were doing the right thing, but you were getting manipulated by DOG FIGHTERS AND PIT BULL BREEDERS who wanted to keep hurting those dogs.

There are too many people in pit bull advocacy who are actually hurting pit bulls, and the Faron situation was one of the worst.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheila, from personal knowledge, you and your friends were supporting Ed Faron friend DOG FIGHTERS who wanted the dogs so they could continue to use them for fighting and breeding. You were trying to get the dogs turned over to DOG FIGHTERS posing as rescue groups!</p>
<p>And you were letting DOG FIGHTERS know where the dogs were so they could steal them.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t blame HSUS here for the terrible things you people were trying to do to those pit bulls. You may have thought you were doing the right thing, but you were getting manipulated by DOG FIGHTERS AND PIT BULL BREEDERS who wanted to keep hurting those dogs.</p>
<p>There are too many people in pit bull advocacy who are actually hurting pit bulls, and the Faron situation was one of the worst.</p>
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		<title>By: Sammi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sammi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 07:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How did HSUS get such a bad rap and what started all this?
Thanks!&quot;

Andrea, perhaps my posts answer your questions.

These breeder and other animal profiteers have been attacking ALL the humane groups for years.

They are just focusing on HSUS now because HSUS is so successful at helping animals!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How did HSUS get such a bad rap and what started all this?<br />
Thanks!&#8221;</p>
<p>Andrea, perhaps my posts answer your questions.</p>
<p>These breeder and other animal profiteers have been attacking ALL the humane groups for years.</p>
<p>They are just focusing on HSUS now because HSUS is so successful at helping animals!!</p>
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		<title>By: Sammi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sammi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 07:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Example

&quot; passing these mandatory spay neuter laws only accomplishes putting reputable breeders out of business and does nothing to resolve the problem&quot;

THIS IS PROPAGANDA FROM AKC. AKC has been issuing this WORD FOR WORD for years. This is written by a sneaky breeder pretending to be just a dog lover.

It&#039;s a lie of course.

Breeders don&#039;t want to get licensed (which the larger ones would have to with mandatory spay neuter laws) because they are cheating on their taxes. And AKC breeders don&#039;t want the puppy mills to pay higher licensing fees or go away, because that is less income for AKC and their puppy mill registration business.

See how these people work? Once you recognize the propaganda, you can spot the fakes who are really breeder lobbyists.

They don&#039;t care about the dogs. They care about their BUSINESS.</description>
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<p>&#8221; passing these mandatory spay neuter laws only accomplishes putting reputable breeders out of business and does nothing to resolve the problem&#8221;</p>
<p>THIS IS PROPAGANDA FROM AKC. AKC has been issuing this WORD FOR WORD for years. This is written by a sneaky breeder pretending to be just a dog lover.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a lie of course.</p>
<p>Breeders don&#8217;t want to get licensed (which the larger ones would have to with mandatory spay neuter laws) because they are cheating on their taxes. And AKC breeders don&#8217;t want the puppy mills to pay higher licensing fees or go away, because that is less income for AKC and their puppy mill registration business.</p>
<p>See how these people work? Once you recognize the propaganda, you can spot the fakes who are really breeder lobbyists.</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t care about the dogs. They care about their BUSINESS.</p>
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