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		<title>By: AmyP</title>
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		<dc:creator>AmyP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CATHY-

Dont you dare come here to a blog that obviously promotes rescue and defend breeders. How would you feel if you were used to constantly churn out kids?? And then to have your kids taken away from you??</description>
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<p>Dont you dare come here to a blog that obviously promotes rescue and defend breeders. How would you feel if you were used to constantly churn out kids?? And then to have your kids taken away from you??</p>
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		<title>By: Amy - Dog Rescue Person</title>
		<link>http://thoughtsfurpaws.com/dogs/dog-breeders-not-all-good-gibbys-story/comment-page-1/#comment-3825</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy - Dog Rescue Person</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where do I start.  #1 If you are a legitimate breeder you are NOT, I repeat NOT breeding for money.  You may have 1 litter a year maybe 2 at the most. You run reference checks on potential owners, you get the dew claws, shots and even get the dogs FIXED!!! BEFORE they go home or you have the dogs are contract to get fixed by a specific date.  You take your dogs back should anything happen where the family can&#039;t keep it. Ect.
 
I do dog rescue and I have NO ISSUE with RESPONSIBLE breeder.  Responsible being the key word here.  I know people who breed and rescue.  And most if not all responsible breeders are involved in rescue because there are so many not responsible breeders out there.
 
Now Cathy you need a reality check.  Just because a dog is a &quot;RESCUE&quot; dog doesn&#039;t mean something is wrong with them.   You are very uneducated if you think that.  Dogs are DUMPED for so many reasons.  Owners are moving and can&#039;t take the dog.  Single person gets married and spouse doesn&#039;t like dogs or that dog. Couple has a baby and no time for the dog. Loss of job can&#039;t afford the dog any more. and the #1 reason people don&#039;t get their dogs fixed and end up with a litter of puppies they can&#039;t afford and what is the easiest thing to do??? DUMP THEM!
 
So, CATHY you are VERY VERY VERY wrong in your belief that rescue dogs are not as good as breeders dogs.  I mean seriously where did you think they came from... a self proclaimed breeder.  I can&#039;t even tell you how many dogs I have taken from a shelter on they day they were going to die and the shelter hands me there &quot;registration&quot; papers that the owners dropped off with the dog.  UGH!
 
And before you sit here and say how horrible rescue dogs are I want you to contact EVERY single person you have EVER sold a puppy to and find out how YOUR puppy, the puppy  you brought into this world is doing.  #1. Do you even have that contact information and #2. Do you know 100% for sure that they are still in that loving home you placed them in?  How many of your dogs are chained up outside? How many of your dogs spend hours on hours locked in a crate? How many of your dogs ended up in the shelter because the family didn&#039;t want them any more?
 
I have placed nearly 500 dogs since 2006 and I keep in contact with EVERY SINGLE person who has one of my dogs.  I reach out to EVERY person 2 X&#039;s a year and even baby sit my adopted dogs, the come over for play dates and have a yearly party where the all come so I can see them.  ANYONE who has been unable to keep a dog due to a life change I take the rescue back.  ALL the dogs are fixed and up to date on all vet care PRIOR to going home. AND NONE OF THEM HAVE KNOWN AGGRESSION!  I put to sleep any dog that comes into my rescue that is people or dog aggressive.
 
Get a reality check Cathy and educate yourself to the real issue out there... breeders who are NOT RESPONSIBLE.  If you are responsible then you shouldn&#039;t be so angry and leaving message after message about how responsible you are.
 
If you can say you #1. fix your puppies prior to being sold #2. have your dogs on contracts so that nothing happens to them. #3. Interview in the people that are BUYING your dogs and making sure they are a good home.  Not just selling to the first person that comes to your door. #4. Will take them back at anytime and #5. can honestly say without a doubt you know 100% that none of your dogs ended up in the shelter.  Then you are good breeder and there is no need for you to act like a basket case on this blog post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where do I start.  #1 If you are a legitimate breeder you are NOT, I repeat NOT breeding for money.  You may have 1 litter a year maybe 2 at the most. You run reference checks on potential owners, you get the dew claws, shots and even get the dogs FIXED!!! BEFORE they go home or you have the dogs are contract to get fixed by a specific date.  You take your dogs back should anything happen where the family can&#8217;t keep it. Ect.</p>
<p>I do dog rescue and I have NO ISSUE with RESPONSIBLE breeder.  Responsible being the key word here.  I know people who breed and rescue.  And most if not all responsible breeders are involved in rescue because there are so many not responsible breeders out there.</p>
<p>Now Cathy you need a reality check.  Just because a dog is a &#8220;RESCUE&#8221; dog doesn&#8217;t mean something is wrong with them.   You are very uneducated if you think that.  Dogs are DUMPED for so many reasons.  Owners are moving and can&#8217;t take the dog.  Single person gets married and spouse doesn&#8217;t like dogs or that dog. Couple has a baby and no time for the dog. Loss of job can&#8217;t afford the dog any more. and the #1 reason people don&#8217;t get their dogs fixed and end up with a litter of puppies they can&#8217;t afford and what is the easiest thing to do??? DUMP THEM!</p>
<p>So, CATHY you are VERY VERY VERY wrong in your belief that rescue dogs are not as good as breeders dogs.  I mean seriously where did you think they came from&#8230; a self proclaimed breeder.  I can&#8217;t even tell you how many dogs I have taken from a shelter on they day they were going to die and the shelter hands me there &#8220;registration&#8221; papers that the owners dropped off with the dog.  UGH!</p>
<p>And before you sit here and say how horrible rescue dogs are I want you to contact EVERY single person you have EVER sold a puppy to and find out how YOUR puppy, the puppy  you brought into this world is doing.  #1. Do you even have that contact information and #2. Do you know 100% for sure that they are still in that loving home you placed them in?  How many of your dogs are chained up outside? How many of your dogs spend hours on hours locked in a crate? How many of your dogs ended up in the shelter because the family didn&#8217;t want them any more?</p>
<p>I have placed nearly 500 dogs since 2006 and I keep in contact with EVERY SINGLE person who has one of my dogs.  I reach out to EVERY person 2 X&#8217;s a year and even baby sit my adopted dogs, the come over for play dates and have a yearly party where the all come so I can see them.  ANYONE who has been unable to keep a dog due to a life change I take the rescue back.  ALL the dogs are fixed and up to date on all vet care PRIOR to going home. AND NONE OF THEM HAVE KNOWN AGGRESSION!  I put to sleep any dog that comes into my rescue that is people or dog aggressive.</p>
<p>Get a reality check Cathy and educate yourself to the real issue out there&#8230; breeders who are NOT RESPONSIBLE.  If you are responsible then you shouldn&#8217;t be so angry and leaving message after message about how responsible you are.</p>
<p>If you can say you #1. fix your puppies prior to being sold #2. have your dogs on contracts so that nothing happens to them. #3. Interview in the people that are BUYING your dogs and making sure they are a good home.  Not just selling to the first person that comes to your door. #4. Will take them back at anytime and #5. can honestly say without a doubt you know 100% that none of your dogs ended up in the shelter.  Then you are good breeder and there is no need for you to act like a basket case on this blog post.</p>
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		<title>By: AnimalLuvr</title>
		<link>http://thoughtsfurpaws.com/dogs/dog-breeders-not-all-good-gibbys-story/comment-page-1/#comment-3823</link>
		<dc:creator>AnimalLuvr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Cathy-

I think you need to get off YOUR high horse. Most breeders are only in it for the money and most dogs ARE inbred in my experiences and most other people&#039;s I know. Your comments here just confirmed to me why I do not like dog breeders. They are self-righteous, couldnt care less about the plight of homeless animals so they just keep making more and more, using a female dog like a machine, always impregnating her and making her uncomfortable. 

How dare you say that adoptable dogs are &quot;A dog that has been abused or given up versus raising a puppy right from the start. Do you really want to take a chance on an older dog who might have really bad habits you can’t change, or has been so abused by his previous family that it might rip your face (or worse your kid’s faces off?)&quot;

You have no idea and obviously dont give a CRAP about the plight of homeless animals or animals that HAVE been abused. Did you know that over 6 million dogs die in shelters every year? How many of those are YOUR DOGS that arent puppies anymore so they get given up to shelters. 

Some people would prefer to SAVE A LIFE than bring an extra one into the world. You are so crass and I cant believe you have the nerve to comment here supporting your &quot;business&quot; of selling dogs for profit. I feel so bad for your animals.</description>
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<p>I think you need to get off YOUR high horse. Most breeders are only in it for the money and most dogs ARE inbred in my experiences and most other people&#8217;s I know. Your comments here just confirmed to me why I do not like dog breeders. They are self-righteous, couldnt care less about the plight of homeless animals so they just keep making more and more, using a female dog like a machine, always impregnating her and making her uncomfortable. </p>
<p>How dare you say that adoptable dogs are &#8220;A dog that has been abused or given up versus raising a puppy right from the start. Do you really want to take a chance on an older dog who might have really bad habits you can’t change, or has been so abused by his previous family that it might rip your face (or worse your kid’s faces off?)&#8221;</p>
<p>You have no idea and obviously dont give a CRAP about the plight of homeless animals or animals that HAVE been abused. Did you know that over 6 million dogs die in shelters every year? How many of those are YOUR DOGS that arent puppies anymore so they get given up to shelters. </p>
<p>Some people would prefer to SAVE A LIFE than bring an extra one into the world. You are so crass and I cant believe you have the nerve to comment here supporting your &#8220;business&#8221; of selling dogs for profit. I feel so bad for your animals.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
		<link>http://thoughtsfurpaws.com/dogs/dog-breeders-not-all-good-gibbys-story/comment-page-1/#comment-3820</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 05:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MONEY....MONEY...there is ALOT of $$ to be made selling puppies??!! OMG...I must raise my price because that is Sooooooo not so! Dews, shots, vet checks, puppy pads, puppy food, EIGHT WEEKS OF YOUR TIME....advertising, etc., etc. Sorry, not a lottery ticket I&#039;m holding, not even a scratch off. Maybe we do this for OTHER reasons. Proud to be a puppy loving person!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MONEY&#8230;.MONEY&#8230;there is ALOT of $$ to be made selling puppies??!! OMG&#8230;I must raise my price because that is Sooooooo not so! Dews, shots, vet checks, puppy pads, puppy food, EIGHT WEEKS OF YOUR TIME&#8230;.advertising, etc., etc. Sorry, not a lottery ticket I&#8217;m holding, not even a scratch off. Maybe we do this for OTHER reasons. Proud to be a puppy loving person!</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
		<link>http://thoughtsfurpaws.com/dogs/dog-breeders-not-all-good-gibbys-story/comment-page-1/#comment-3819</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 05:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear...here I rant again ChRIS...&quot;the distinction between liking a breed and actually liking dogs in general&quot;...are you really THAT stupid? There sometimes IS a difference amongst breeds and who is looking for what. If I were an apartment dweller, I would go looking for a small dog-or if I were a hunter I&#039;d go looking for a specific hunting dog to match my likes and housing style. Yes, shelters maybe great in your opinion, but what are you getting? A dog that has been abused or given up versus raising a puppy right from the start. Do you really want to take a chance on an older dog who might have really bad habits you can&#039;t change, or has been so abused by his previous family that it might rip your face (or worse your kid&#039;s faces off?). So get off your high horse. Breeders or people that raise puppies are not the devil here. Yes, I feel bad for dogs abandoned, so don&#039;t get me wrong...but there are problems that will come with that abandoned dog; so be very prepared for that if &#039;PAYING&#039; to adopt a dog that is already paid for state funding and donations. Sorry...not trying to glorify either side, but he made a very sad case and beat up breeders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear&#8230;here I rant again ChRIS&#8230;&#8221;the distinction between liking a breed and actually liking dogs in general&#8221;&#8230;are you really THAT stupid? There sometimes IS a difference amongst breeds and who is looking for what. If I were an apartment dweller, I would go looking for a small dog-or if I were a hunter I&#8217;d go looking for a specific hunting dog to match my likes and housing style. Yes, shelters maybe great in your opinion, but what are you getting? A dog that has been abused or given up versus raising a puppy right from the start. Do you really want to take a chance on an older dog who might have really bad habits you can&#8217;t change, or has been so abused by his previous family that it might rip your face (or worse your kid&#8217;s faces off?). So get off your high horse. Breeders or people that raise puppies are not the devil here. Yes, I feel bad for dogs abandoned, so don&#8217;t get me wrong&#8230;but there are problems that will come with that abandoned dog; so be very prepared for that if &#8216;PAYING&#8217; to adopt a dog that is already paid for state funding and donations. Sorry&#8230;not trying to glorify either side, but he made a very sad case and beat up breeders.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
		<link>http://thoughtsfurpaws.com/dogs/dog-breeders-not-all-good-gibbys-story/comment-page-1/#comment-3813</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 03:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris...what a bunch of crap about anyone who breeds dogs doesn&#039;t like dogs!! I&#039;m a home/family breeder who has the time to spend with pups as I am self employed. I have puppies because I LOVE the miracle of birth and my ability to find great genes-the making of great puppies! Having puppies is ALOT of work with little pay in the end-I do it to see the smiles of the families that I match my pups with. And of further note-I know this thread is about inbreeding...mine are NOT inbred.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris&#8230;what a bunch of crap about anyone who breeds dogs doesn&#8217;t like dogs!! I&#8217;m a home/family breeder who has the time to spend with pups as I am self employed. I have puppies because I LOVE the miracle of birth and my ability to find great genes-the making of great puppies! Having puppies is ALOT of work with little pay in the end-I do it to see the smiles of the families that I match my pups with. And of further note-I know this thread is about inbreeding&#8230;mine are NOT inbred.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 16:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anyone who breeds dogs doesn&#039;t like dogs.  there is a severe pet over population problem in this country, and anyone who contributes to that is obviously more inclined to make a profit than help decrease the millions of dogs who have to be put down each year. breeders like the breed (I make the distinction between liking a breed and actually liking dogs in general) and most importantly, like the money.  it&#039;s disgusting.  Please adopt from shelters!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anyone who breeds dogs doesn&#8217;t like dogs.  there is a severe pet over population problem in this country, and anyone who contributes to that is obviously more inclined to make a profit than help decrease the millions of dogs who have to be put down each year. breeders like the breed (I make the distinction between liking a breed and actually liking dogs in general) and most importantly, like the money.  it&#8217;s disgusting.  Please adopt from shelters!</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 07:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a somewhat similar experience with getting my golden puppy. I think her dogs were taken care of pretty well, I wouldn&#039;t call her a puppy miller, but her business practices were terrible. The day before I was supposed to pick my puppy up, she emailed me stating that the 2nd pick people (I had 3rd pick of the litter) wanted to come later in the week, and that she was sorry, life happens, blah blah blah. Well, I emailed her right away stating that the day I had scheduled (months in advance!) is the only day that would work, since it&#039;s a 5 hour car ride and I planned my whole week around this date. She never emailed me back and I ended up calling her at 10pm that night asking if I should still come tomorrow. She told me that it really wasn&#039;t the other peoples&#039; fault and that she wrote me down for pick up on the wrong date. (Even though the email she sent out CLEARLY blamed the people with 2nd pick reserve). She tried to guilt trip me, stating &quot;the other people are going to be sooo mad... can&#039;t you come next week?&quot; No, I can&#039;t. She didn&#039;t realize people plan their LIVES around their animals. I had my work schedule and school schedule built around this date. 

I ended up going the same date as I had scheduled, and when I arrived, she tried to convince me to take home a different puppy. I told this to a coworker of mine, who had a problem with the VERY SAME breeder not too long ago. She went to pick up her puppy (she had 2nd pick female) and the breeder told her she must have &quot;accidently sold it&quot; to someone else the day before. How can a responsible breeder NOT know what she&#039;s selling? She obviously was given a higher offer for the female from someone else and sold her. Then completely lied to my coworker (who drove 6 hours to this breeder without a phone call....) 

Sorry I wrote a lot! I&#039;m just very upset about this, and I was given basically the same response when I contacted the AKC. I guess the only thing I can do is keep telling the story to deter people away from her! 

Ps. The puppy is great! He wasn&#039;t injured or anything, and is healthy with a great temperament. It&#039;s just too bad that his breeder isn&#039;t a very good person...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a somewhat similar experience with getting my golden puppy. I think her dogs were taken care of pretty well, I wouldn&#8217;t call her a puppy miller, but her business practices were terrible. The day before I was supposed to pick my puppy up, she emailed me stating that the 2nd pick people (I had 3rd pick of the litter) wanted to come later in the week, and that she was sorry, life happens, blah blah blah. Well, I emailed her right away stating that the day I had scheduled (months in advance!) is the only day that would work, since it&#8217;s a 5 hour car ride and I planned my whole week around this date. She never emailed me back and I ended up calling her at 10pm that night asking if I should still come tomorrow. She told me that it really wasn&#8217;t the other peoples&#8217; fault and that she wrote me down for pick up on the wrong date. (Even though the email she sent out CLEARLY blamed the people with 2nd pick reserve). She tried to guilt trip me, stating &#8220;the other people are going to be sooo mad&#8230; can&#8217;t you come next week?&#8221; No, I can&#8217;t. She didn&#8217;t realize people plan their LIVES around their animals. I had my work schedule and school schedule built around this date. </p>
<p>I ended up going the same date as I had scheduled, and when I arrived, she tried to convince me to take home a different puppy. I told this to a coworker of mine, who had a problem with the VERY SAME breeder not too long ago. She went to pick up her puppy (she had 2nd pick female) and the breeder told her she must have &#8220;accidently sold it&#8221; to someone else the day before. How can a responsible breeder NOT know what she&#8217;s selling? She obviously was given a higher offer for the female from someone else and sold her. Then completely lied to my coworker (who drove 6 hours to this breeder without a phone call&#8230;.) </p>
<p>Sorry I wrote a lot! I&#8217;m just very upset about this, and I was given basically the same response when I contacted the AKC. I guess the only thing I can do is keep telling the story to deter people away from her! </p>
<p>Ps. The puppy is great! He wasn&#8217;t injured or anything, and is healthy with a great temperament. It&#8217;s just too bad that his breeder isn&#8217;t a very good person&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 18:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I get an owner surrender with &quot;paper&quot; I toss them in the trash!  That is all they are good for, trash!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I get an owner surrender with &#8220;paper&#8221; I toss them in the trash!  That is all they are good for, trash!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great rescue story. We agree with Tucker that there are responsibly breeders but there just TOO MANY irresponsible ones in it for the money. 

More people need to read this story and learn to do research before &quot;purchasing&quot; a dog. Rescue is the only way to go if you ask me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great rescue story. We agree with Tucker that there are responsibly breeders but there just TOO MANY irresponsible ones in it for the money. </p>
<p>More people need to read this story and learn to do research before &#8220;purchasing&#8221; a dog. Rescue is the only way to go if you ask me&#8230;</p>
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